In this episode of the “Man Up Club Presents” podcast, Celena Lena of Sis N Lil Bro, delves into the topics of identity and authentic creativity alongside her guest, Lael Ware. Lael is not just a 25-year-old upcoming producer studying linguistics, but also an aspiring council member for the Minneapolis Ward 3 City Council. The conversation explores Lael’s understanding of his creative journey, the influence of identity on creativity, and the importance of authenticity in artistic expression.

Lael Ware: A Journey of Musical Self-Discovery

Lael shares his unique experience of connecting with fellow artist Chrome at a Shy Baby concert, discussing the profound moment that led to a creative collaboration. Despite initially having no music ready, Lael recognized Chrome’s vibe as aligning with the “hood trap” genre and set out to create a sound that truly resonated with Chrome’s identity.

As Lael continues to explore his sound, he emphasizes the role of a curator in blending different musical styles to create something uniquely reflective of Minnesota’s collective sensibilities. This process demands a deep understanding of oneself and the ability to tailor music to fit the unique artistry of his collaborators.

Discussing Identity and Authenticity

Celena and Lael delve into the concept of identity and how it influences creativity. Celena prompts Lael to describe the ingredients that make up his personal identity, drawing parallels to well-known figures like Cardi B to illustrate how certain characteristics can form a distinct persona.

They also touch on the challenges and judgments faced by individuals based on appearance and identity, as Lael recounts experiences of being unfairly judged or misunderstood due to his external appearance. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding oneself and the power of authenticity in deflecting external misconceptions.

Cultural Appropriation and Authentic Creative Expression

A substantial portion of the discussion is devoted to the nuanced topic of cultural appropriation. Celena shares personal experiences where her creative choices were questioned, leading to a broader conversation about the gray areas in cultural appropriation and the distinction between appreciation and appropriation.

Lael articulates a thoughtful perspective, emphasizing that the problematic aspect arises when someone becomes the sole benefactor of a culture that is not theirs. He argues that giving credit and ensuring mutual benefit are crucial in respecting other cultures.

The Role of Labels and Self-Perception

Reflecting on the impact of labels, both hosts examine how external perceptions can shape an individual’s identity. Lael recalls instances when misconceptions about his character led him to unwittingly align with those labels until a friend intervened, encouraging him to remain true to himself.

Celena emphasizes the powerful influence of spoken labels, particularly on young individuals. She underscores the responsibility of artists to authentically express themselves, staying true to their core values while navigating societal pressures.

Commitment to Authenticity in Art

The podcast concludes with a reaffirmation of the importance of staying true to one’s identity in creative endeavors. Celena reiterates her commitment to creating music that reflects her genuine beliefs, encouraging listeners to embrace their unique stories and express them fearlessly.

As the conversation wraps up, the message is clear: authentic creativity originates from an authentic self. For both the artist and the individual, understanding and embracing one’s identity is crucial in producing work that resonates deeply and meaningfully with audiences.

Conclusion

The “Man Up Club Presents” podcast stands as a platform not only for exploring critical societal issues but also for fostering conversations about identity, creativity, and personal growth. Celena Lena’s engaging dialogue with Lael Ware serves as an inspiring reminder to viewers and artists alike to remain true to their identities and craft for a greater, more authentic impact.

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TIMESTAMPS

00:00 Introduction to the Man Up Club
01:02 Today’s Topic: Authentic Creativity
01:21 Meet Lael Ware: The Multifaceted Producer
02:01 Creative Process and Inspirations
05:21 Identity and Judgments
13:49 Relationships and Identity
21:01 Social Norms and Breaking Expectations
24:40 Overcoming Social Norms and Labels
25:52 The Impact of Labels on Youth
26:18 Identity and Authentic Creativity
29:42 Navigating the Creative Space
39:22 Cultural Appropriation Discussion
48:01 Final Thoughts on Authenticity